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Dec 9, 2010 17:54:01 GMT -5
Post by shadow on Dec 9, 2010 17:54:01 GMT -5
SO, I thought I should post this somewhere. The linage of Kovu, Vitani, and Nuka is so highly debated, i think we should probably agree on an official one.
I personally like the idea of Vitani and Nuka being biological siblings and Kovu only being a "brother" because he was chosen by Scar. He's completely unrelated imo, but some people speculate that Kovu was a result of Zira's second mate.
I personally dont think it fits her character to take another mate, but you know... im all for whatever! But yeah, good to clear this stuff up, right?
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Dec 9, 2010 18:45:59 GMT -5
Post by Kiara ♥ on Dec 9, 2010 18:45:59 GMT -5
Some actually say that Nuka was a result of Scar and Sarafina, and Nuka was sent with Zira when she was banished tothe outlands for her loose grip on sanity. And that Kovu and Vitani's father was Ni, a pridelander who they thought was getting to close to Nala and was sent to the outlands where he met Zira and thus creating Vitani and Kovu. When Scar visited Zira she said that they were his children, and him believing her named Kovu his heir.
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Dec 9, 2010 19:03:05 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 19:03:05 GMT -5
Actually, it has been heavily implied by Disney and in the movie that Nuka was indeed Scar's son, while with Vitani it isn't known. Kovu was originally to be Scar's son too, but Disney cut it out because that would mean that Kiara and Kovu were cousins. [/size]
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Dec 9, 2010 20:27:22 GMT -5
Post by dwdruid on Dec 9, 2010 20:27:22 GMT -5
I've heard of others saying that while Nuka as Zira's true son, that she stole Vitani and KOvu from another pride when they were cubs and couldn't remember their true parents. This would explain why Zira was saddened by Nuka death in the film, but was willing to kill both Kovu and Vitani when they betrayed her. Most of this is speculation I picked up from other Lion King RP sites, and probably aren't very reliable. With some many theories going around, no one really knows.
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Dec 9, 2010 22:38:10 GMT -5
Post by shadow on Dec 9, 2010 22:38:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I do think that Nuka is the product of Zira and Scar, that much I'm pretty positive on though again, no real evidence.
Another thing that could be true is that Scar and Mufasa were not brothers, just had equal rights to mate in the Pridelands, though the story books kind of disprove that. Also, the storybooks disprove Ni being close to Nala. Ni was full grown when Nala met her as a CUB. And he's not really outlanderish in any way from the stories... so I dunno.
But yeah, totally up for speculation. I kind of like that Vitani and Kovu were stolen from another Pride, or better yet, perhaps Zira demanded them from other mothers in the Outlands when they were born. Its really hard to know.
But its the admins that have to decide what official one we have in the end, unless we want total confusion in our apps, plots, and whatnot. Cuz... yeah.... I just thought it would be a good idea.
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Dec 9, 2010 22:57:48 GMT -5
Post by Kiara ♥ on Dec 9, 2010 22:57:48 GMT -5
How about this is the story?:
Nuka is the son of Scar and Zira, and Vitani and Kovu are siblings from a mother of a nomad group of lions, ones that were either slaughtered or forced to join Zira. Zira killed Vitani and Kovu's mother and posed them as her own children? She adored Kovu's more strong appearance and pelt coloring over Nuka and so he was chosen as Scar's heir?
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Dec 9, 2010 23:13:24 GMT -5
Post by shadow on Dec 9, 2010 23:13:24 GMT -5
Its all up to you in the end Fell, but I like that. Anyone else opposed?
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Dec 9, 2010 23:26:05 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 23:26:05 GMT -5
That sounds fine to me, guys.
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Dec 10, 2010 13:45:35 GMT -5
Post by dapple on Dec 10, 2010 13:45:35 GMT -5
I LOVE it actually...can't I have a say in this?? lol, kidding!!
But seriously, I like it. I was wondering how that was going to work too. That makes perfect sense to me Fell.
Wait...I reread it and something kinda seems off to me. I think we should pay close attention to exactly how Scar 'hand-chose' Kovu. If the nomad was killed after Scar's death, then how would Scar choose Kovu? Zira herself says that, "Kovu was hand chosen by Scar to follow in his paw prints."
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Dec 10, 2010 16:56:24 GMT -5
Post by Vitani ♥ on Dec 10, 2010 16:56:24 GMT -5
It could have been before Scars death? Or maybe Nuka and Kovu are brothers, but Vitanis mother was the one killed?
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Dec 10, 2010 17:42:34 GMT -5
Post by dwdruid on Dec 10, 2010 17:42:34 GMT -5
I don't think so, whatever is decided Kovu is definately not Scar's son. Zira could have killed a nomad lioness and taken her cub (Kovu) and placed him in same litter with Vitani. She then would have convinced Kovu that they were really simblings while some of the others, like Nuka, would have known he wasn't. Just an idea.
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Dec 10, 2010 21:10:01 GMT -5
Post by chazz on Dec 10, 2010 21:10:01 GMT -5
Yeah, and then one day if he gets super pissed at Kovu and Vitani, he could be like "YOU GUYS ARENT EVEN RELATED TO ME!"
XD, that could be dramatic.
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Dec 11, 2010 10:20:13 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2010 10:20:13 GMT -5
I might have a solution to that. As I'm sure we've all seen in the movie, Zira's not all the way there when it comes to Scar. x3
Perhaps Scar was unhappy with Nuka and they tried again for a better heir but the mating didn't take. Then, after Simba's return and Kopa's birth, Zira unable to take the fact that she didn't bare Scar another heir went out to look for one that she thought would be suitable for her beloved Scar. She found Vitani and Kovu's birth mother, so she killed her and took her cubs as her own, telling Nuka that she was led to these cubs by Scar. Favoring Kovu for his resemblance to Scar, she started to say that he was hand-chosen by Scar? [/size]
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Dec 21, 2010 13:46:55 GMT -5
Post by dapple on Dec 21, 2010 13:46:55 GMT -5
um...makes sense... so is that what we're going with then?
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